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#868 Kaseya Connect 2026: Andrea McGlothin - From Classroom to Boardroom: Lessons That Scale 📈

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What happens when a former elementary school teacher steps into the fast-paced world of tech sales and MSP project management?

In this episode of Joey Pinz Conversations, Andrea McGlothin shares a powerful journey from teaching first graders how to read to helping MSPs structure projects for real profitability and success. 📚➡️💼

Andrea breaks down why many MSPs struggle with project timelines, scope creep, and inaccurate forecasting—and how better structure, smarter tools, and data-driven insights can completely change outcomes. ⚙️📊 She also dives into how sports, teaching, and environment design shaped her mindset, leadership style, and personal growth.

Beyond business, this episode explores the importance of creating the right environment for focus, growth, and consistency—both professionally and personally. 🧠✨

🔥 Top 3 Highlights:

✅ Why most MSP projects fail (and how to fix them)

✅ The shift from “learning to read” → “reading to learn” (and why it matters in business)

✅ How environment design impacts focus, performance, and consistency

A practical and personal conversation packed with insights for MSP leaders, entrepreneurs, and anyone looking to improve how they work and grow.

 

 

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SPEAKER_00

Kaseya Connect 2026. In Las Vegas, what a wonderful, wonderful event. Lots of energy, lots of new things coming on the platform. The new CEO was great. So much energy. Vender Hall was really, really involved and just really well-run operation. Really enjoyed the event. I've been going to them when I was an MSP and now as you know, not an MSP as a as a media, as a vendor, etc., since 2007. Really great event. Um I'm going to say it was the best ever. Three great conversations. First with Andrea McLaughlin. Oh my goodness. Great conversation with Andrea. Andrea uh works at uh is at Moonvela and uh account manager there and does an incredible job talking to MSPs about how to run projects, how to use their great platform to do so. She's open, she's insightful, she's honest, she's uh energetic. Really enjoyed the conversation with Andrea. Thank you. And then I spoke with Aaron McLean, an Olympian. She's CMO over at Cy and Nomi, great cyber security platform. Aaron, I thank you so much for your time. Uh from the Olympic softball stage, I mean a Canadian Olympian, to the chief marketing officer now. Great energy, really enjoyed talking with you. And then last, Jim Lippby, the CPO of Kaseya. I've had the pleasure of knowing Jim for at least 10-15 years. He was an MSP, and then he was uh a SaaS vendor and came out of it, and now he's been at Caseya for all this time. We go in deep about some of that transition, some of the great new things that are happening at Kaseya. Great conversation with Jim. Wonderful experience there at Caseya Connect 2026. Thanks for watching. Thank you for all my great guests. Hi, I'm Joey Pins, and here's my 45-second introduction. After starting my business in the 90s, I started developing poor habits of eating and my diet because of working way too much. I found myself at 340 pounds. The doctor told me if I don't lose the weight, I'm not going to see my daughter graduate. I took the next seven months, lost 130 pounds. People ask me, how'd you do it? What's the secret? I need to lose weight. How'd you do it? How'd I lose the weight? Just one word. Discipline. I've had other successes in life, and I attribute them all to discipline. Now I'm not the king of discipline, but I believe that it can help all of us. Friends convinced me to start a podcast. The podcast mission how do we better ourselves and society? I talked to interesting people in health, fitness, sport, wellness, business, technology, science, art and culture. And I eventually asked them how discipline plays a role in their life. Podcast vision, growth through learning from others. So are you are you prepared to talk about the three-body experiment? I am not. I I just did a quick search on it last night. Did you? And so what what it's a physics problem?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. That he recommended. Yes, my CEO, Mike.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, he recommended that I watch it. Uh so it's on my list of shows, I think on Netflix is what he mentioned. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. I'll have to take a look.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Sounds like a good one. But I don't know anything. That's all Mike.

SPEAKER_00

And what do you do you miss being a school teacher?

SPEAKER_02

You know, it's funny you ask that. I, yeah, I mean, I loved teaching. It is what grades? First and second grade, funny enough. Yeah. The little ones. Yes. They're so cute. Um pretty innocent. For the most part, you know, yeah, for the most part. But uh yeah, I love that age. It's just a good the whole uh teaching a child how to read is so interesting. Um, because me myself, like growing up, I was actually a struggling reader. Really? Believe it or not. Yeah. So I remember spending hours with my mom, like studying spelling words and not ever fully understanding like why words were spelled that way, and they didn't, you couldn't always sound it out. And so just understanding how reading works in general and being able to like teach that to kids, it was just when they when you saw the light bulb go off, it was like that's that's what I miss.

SPEAKER_00

They come in not being able to read and they leave reading.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so in first grade, the school that I taught in, a lot of them were beginning readers, so they're learning how to read in kindergarten now. Um back at, you know, when I was younger, it was first grade, but it's a little bit earlier now.

SPEAKER_00

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. But um, but yeah, so they kind of have an understanding of reading. They're still learning to read, and by the time they would leave me, I wanted them to be reading to learn because there's a difference. Learning to read, reading to learn.

SPEAKER_00

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, so they're just reading, but not really understanding.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. Yeah, like try the whole comprehension thing is another piece you really gotta, you know, teach them. But once they actually understand the phonetics and they can read sentences that turns into chapter books, and then they learn to love to read, and they're comprehending a lot better too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because as adults, we pretty much have I don't know how many words memorized, right? We're not sounding them out, we're just seeing them.

SPEAKER_02

Yep. We're pretty much skipping across the pages too. It's just like our eyes are identifying words that we've seen over and over again at this point. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So why'd you leave?

SPEAKER_02

So it is a long story. Um I, you know, to simplify it, I think I just really wanted to see what else was out there that I could still teach, but you know, I wanted to see if I could maybe make some more money.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Teaching in South Carolina is yeah, yeah, it's one of the the worst as far as teacher salaries go.

SPEAKER_01

Really?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's it's pretty bad. I think recently they just did across the board raised every single teacher's salary by $8,000, which was good.

SPEAKER_00

Significant.

SPEAKER_02

But um, but yeah, I I wanted to see what else was out there. And I had a friend who I was talking to about like other possibilities, and she had been in sales for 10 years herself, and she was like, Let me see your resume, let me see if I can like help you translate your teaching experience into like a sales world. Plus, when I was in high school, I was a telemarketer. One of those annoying telemarketers that calls at dinner time and gets hung up on all the time. Didn't really enjoy that job, if I'm being honest. Um, but in college, I sold vacations.

SPEAKER_01

Whoa.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, and so I did that pretty much all four years off and on. Um, I also played sports, so when I was playing sports, I couldn't work. But I definitely had prior sales experience and then marry that with teaching experience. And it's a good recipe. Pretty good combination, yeah. It's a good combination.

SPEAKER_00

And you're a softball pitcher?

SPEAKER_02

Yes. So I've played softball since I was seven or eight. Started with coach pitch, and then that turned into doing the coaches pitch, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and I that was my sport growing up. My father was my coach throughout the entire time. Um, you know, until I was 19 years old or so, and through college and all of that, and uh just recently um decided to buy a new softball glove and new fast pitch softballs. I have a boyfriend who's a baseball player, and so it's nice to be able to get out there and you know, in my 40s and throw a ball and it feels good. You know, you never forget, you never forget like how to throw or hit or anything like that. It all kind of comes back to you.

SPEAKER_00

But the element of being in a team sport is really, really tough to teach somebody. I mean, I played a lot of team sports, only pretty much team sports, and yeah, just being part of that system.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think a lot of our folks at Movalla played sports too. And um, yeah, I saw a statistic recently that talked about, you know, women especially that played in competitive sports, like 90% of C level women came from a childhood where they were playing competitive sports, so it it definitely teaches you leadership, how to work with other people, difficult coaches. Yes, learning how to, you know, be part of that team dynamic is really important. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Also, not only knowing how to win, but knowing how to lose.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, that is so true.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Learning how to lose and going, you know what, that didn't work out. I'm gonna learn from it, I'm gonna grow from it, I'm gonna be better, and I'm not gonna let anyone tell me I can't do something. Right? So, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Famous story. Who knows if it's true? Uh Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris. So Mickey Mantle's on his way out. Roger Maris is a younger guy coming up, as you know.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Roger Maris is at the plate, strikes out, comes in the dugout, you know, kicks the the the water and throws his helmet down and throws his bat down and says, Mickey, you gotta help me. I don't know how to hit. If you've got to help me, I don't know what I'm doing, I can't stand it, and screams. Yeah. And and of course, Mickey Mantle says, Before I have to teach you how to hit, you have to learn how to strike out.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, I love that. You do?

SPEAKER_00

You do.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you absolutely do. Yeah, I was I was not a good hitter when I was younger. Would strike out all the time. But then by the time I was in high school, I had watched a ton of videos of girls that were swinging a bat in a certain way. And there's something crazy about just watching it repetitively, and then you kind of your form starts to mimic that. And I yeah, I ended up being a really good hit. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

We see that in golf with strokes, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Watching one of the strokes, yeah. It's very important to watch like the pros, the real people, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

The real the real people do it. Yeah, yeah. We're here at Caseya Connect, Andrea. I don't know. Jim Lippy said it was the 19th one, it's hard to imagine. But yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It's my first year here.

SPEAKER_00

Your first year you've never been to Caseya.

SPEAKER_02

Never been to Caseya Connect, no. It was Movila, this is Movila's second year. I wasn't here last year, but yeah, so it was it's my first year.

SPEAKER_00

And what are your goals this week?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, really to um educate all of the MSPs that are coming up to the booth and like, hey, what you know, what does Movila do? Or I've heard about you. Tell me a little bit more about how you can help me with my you know project management. Because a lot of them are using Autotask, obviously, which is why we're here, their project module, and struggling to keep their timelines accurate.

SPEAKER_00

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02

And so that's what Movila does, obviously. We're we're help with keeping the timelines accurate across all of those projects that are running in the portfolio. And so I think when I talk to MSPs, I bring that education back into the conversation, right? Because a lot of them don't fully understand why projects are not running smoothly, and it's it's all back to the basics of what does a well-structured project even look like, right? And so most MSPs that we talk to are managing their projects so high level, like a couple of tasks, maybe one giant ticket and they call it a project. And so there's a lot of education we have to provide to go, that's not a project. A project has phases, tasks, dependencies, durations. Um, and when you when you have that structure in place, one of the things that Movile is solving is being able to easily recast those timelines. So when you have, you know, a customer that doesn't get you back something that you need to keep the timeline moving forward, you know, if you were managing that project in the PSA, you would have to manually recast all of those dates. And I've talked to so many people here that are doing that today and they're just spending a lot of time. So, but it all starts with having those well-structured projects and templates from the very beginning, because then that leads to all of the other cool stuff that that MoveAlit can do.

SPEAKER_00

And I remember when when I had my MSP injury, the biggest thing with uh projects is scope creep.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

We match everything up, we thought it was going well, and then a bunch of requirements get changed.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So the system's got to be flexible enough to handle that.

SPEAKER_02

It does, yeah. So when you're adding more work to a project, understanding how it's impacting everything else downstream, or just being able to look at past projects and where that, you know, creep came into play. Was it just because sometimes, you know, it's the analytics of like how much time did it actually take us to do something in the past? A lot of folks don't have the time to go back and do that manually. Um, but that's a big reason why projects aren't extremely profitable for MSPs is because they don't have the analytics to go, it's actually taking way more time to, you know, assess a network that we thought would just take us two hours. It's it's taking four for the team. So being able to see where where the team is going over budget so that you can improve moving forward is is a big part of that. Yeah. It's the timeline accuracy, but it's also the data within those projects around those time entries. So you've got the labor budgets intact from the very beginning and confidence in what you're putting in front of your customer to sign off on as far as like the scope of work and quote goes.

SPEAKER_00

And so what happens is like you say, uh just kind of put it under one ticket.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And they don't know what happened. They don't know if they lost money on it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. They don't know how many hours are on everybody's plate either. So the whole resource management or capacity forecasting, when you keep everything so high level, and you just you're not able to like communicate to your customer like when can we start this next project? Because all of your other projects look like single tickets, right? You can't you can't accurately do that. Um, and a lot of times an MSP will have a sales team that's just like, just sign the contract and we'll we'll get you started as as soon as we can, but they don't have a definitive understanding of of when they can actually start, and that's that's a big problem across the board.

SPEAKER_00

Does a project always have to be non-recurring revenue?

SPEAKER_02

No, not necessarily. Um, you know, as far as uh like onboarding, for example. Yeah, that the onboarding projects are probably one of the most difficult projects.

SPEAKER_00

Really, why?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because the client is responsible for so many different pieces of that. And a lot of the times they're not getting back what they need to get back by a certain date, but they don't always understand how they're impacting the timeline. That's also the project you're trying to impress them. That's the first experience they're having with your MSP. So being able to have something that you have confidence in that you can put in front of them and tell them here's what you're gonna need to do, here's where it's gonna come due. If we don't get it back, here's how you could be impacting the timeline.

SPEAKER_00

And projects also can be internal, right? They're not necessarily billable.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, they can be, yeah. So tons of internal projects. We've got some MSP clients that, you know, their marketing team is using Moovila, you know, for webinars and things of that nature. We actually use Muvola as we should to manage our onboarding projects, our marketing team uses it as well. But yeah, I mean, not every project has to sink back over into the PSA. Anything that has a deadline and tasks that could get thrown off definitely can can be managed inside of Moovila too.

SPEAKER_00

How is AI affecting project management?

SPEAKER_02

Yes. So, you know, the AI aspect, how Movila incorporates it into our platform, it's deterministic AI. Yeah. So it's it's the math that's happening behind the scenes that nobody has the capacity to do in their in their own head, right? So being being able to recast those timelines, that's the math. That's part of deterministic AI. Um, also the analytics on templates, being able to show exactly where the team is going over budget within your template so you can improve moving forward.

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SPEAKER_02

That's part of the AI as well. Um, and just being able to look across all your projects in the portfolio and go, these have bad dates associated with them. We have what we call an RPAX score.

SPEAKER_00

RPAX.

SPEAKER_02

RPAX, yeah. And it's kind of like a competence score or credit score in a way for your projects, but from a portfolio perspective, that'll show you which ones have a bunch of bad dates. So you can focus. A lot of the times, you know, inside of the PSA, you're kind of having to drill into everything separately. There's not these portfolio views that show you the status of all the projects across the board. Um, but this RPAC score is also part of that deterministic AI. It's doing all that proactive looking for you and just surfacing what you need to fix now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

When MSPs are looking for project management software, a platform, what questions should they be asking?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you should really when you're when you're looking for a project management platform, you want to make sure that you're looking for something that gives you the ability to have accurate dates and timelines.

SPEAKER_00

Dates and timelines.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, dates and timelines and schedules. Because if again, like if you cannot trust your dates and your timelines, can you really trust all of the reporting that bubbles up to the top? No, you can't. So you've got to make sure you're finding a system that keeps your dates accurate and lets you know when they're not and what to recast them to. But also a big piece of that is does it tie back into my PSA? Is there an integration? Because if there isn't an integration, then you're gonna have to do double injury, right? So the integration and the accurate timelines are the biggest part of what I would say you would need to be looking for in a project management solution.

SPEAKER_00

So what's the biggest hurdle you find the MSPs going into this space?

SPEAKER_02

Like with managing projects, yeah. Sometimes it's the change management aspect. Yeah. So, you know, for for smaller MSPs that are generally managing their projects too high level, it is it is a change that they're gonna have to make to go, we need we need to plan this out to be a little bit more granular than what we're doing today. We don't preach go overly granular with it. There's certainly a balanced approach, so you get the right data and analytics to improve moving forward. But you know, in moving to a more granular approach, that does mean that your engineers are gonna have to track their time to more tasks than maybe they're used to. But being able to position it to your engineers is a way that, hey, if we have this better data, we'll be able to load balance more easily for you. So you're not gonna have, you know, a week where you have a 200 hours that just landed on your plate because we didn't know how many hours, you know, were across all these different projects because things are gonna shift and change, right? So um, but yeah, that's what I would have to say.

SPEAKER_00

And do you use it personally? I mean, no, I know you've built a cafe and a garage gym, and I you know it's funny.

SPEAKER_02

I did plan a baby shower one time.

SPEAKER_00

With with Moovila.

SPEAKER_02

With Moovila, yeah. And I assigned like tasks to the different girls. It was so funny, and it actually ended up being a beautiful baby shower. But yeah, no, for my home projects, I haven't, but I should have, you know. It would have been cool. It's just me kind of doing that. Movila becomes really helpful when you've got multiple resources and you gotta like keep everyone in check and timelines and you know, this is what you gotta do by when. But for yeah, my my pink cafe that you're referencing, I turned my dining room into a cafe. And it is the most peaceful room in my house. I will journal in there. I have book club. I now read like tons of cool books with all my friends, and I host book club at my house. They all want to have it at my house because they like the cafe. Cafe, yes.

SPEAKER_00

But is coffee served? Is tea served?

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Drink coffee in there, yeah. And I'll move around because I got four circular tables and I've got pink couches and pink chairs, and I don't always sit in the same spot. I'll kind of like move around. Yeah, it's uh it's funny, but I love it.

SPEAKER_00

I have friends who really yeah thrive in those kinds of environments. I I don't know why I don't have that. I don't, I just wherever I am, I just work. I don't know. It's but the the comfort I see in them is comforting to me.

SPEAKER_02

It is, yeah. It it just brings me a sense of peace when I have a comfortable, cute environment. I feel like I can be more creative in my in my thought processes. I can comprehend the books that I'm reading a lot better, too. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Comfortable and cute.

SPEAKER_02

Comfortable and cute. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because there's less noise.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yes. Yes. There's more focus because I know like this environment I'm in, I feel safe. I've I'm my mind is not wondering about what else I can be doing around me. If there's like chaos around me, I can't focus. But when I have peace, that's what brings focus.

SPEAKER_00

Seems like a perfect analogy for a good project management uh platform because then you're not worrying about the that's right. You know, these are just bolts on to some of the PSAs, they're not really project, you know, so they're limited, whereas this is a bit more this seems to acquire some of the noise.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, yeah, absolutely. Just imagine like all the chaos that's going on right now with anybody that is just using the PSA. Right. Right? There's there's just there's too much manual intervention that you have to do to keep everything accurate where project managers can't necessarily focus on the things that make project management fun when all you're doing is manually updating dates all the time. Nobody wants to do that. So, yeah, I mean we live in 2026. There should be a deterministic AI type platform that can do all that math for you behind the scenes.

SPEAKER_00

Andrew, is there something let's say 10 years ago you believed in firmly, you no longer believe now?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, um so you'd have been about 15. I would have been about 15. Yeah. Let's see. 15, I would have been in high school. Um, yeah, I I don't know. I guess I never thought that I would have a little mini me.

SPEAKER_01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02

At that point, I had no idea.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_02

I do have a 14-year-old daughter, my little mini me. She's going to high school next year, and um, it's crazy how time flies, but I gotta tell you, I know you have girls. I do. It's the best. Yes, it's the best.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that age is very special.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. Does she play softball? She does not play softball, but um I had I did take her out. She has braces right now, so you know in softball, they have those face masks that they wear now. So I got I got her one of those just to be careful. But uh yeah, we went out and we tossed the softball, and she wants to swing a bat, and I mean she's 14 now, but just for fun, because she knows it's something that I'm trying to kind of get back into, and she wants to be, you know, a part of that, which is cute.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah, I coached my daughters in soccer.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And, you know, various degrees of interest, but they're again they're part of a team. Yes. And the oldest said I didn't want to do it anymore at high school. I said, okay, but what are you gonna substitute it with?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You're gonna spend the rest of your life exercising. Yeah, and this is how you're gonna start it. I don't mind you quitting. Yeah, just what are you gonna replace? So she picked something else, and yeah, away it went. Yeah, it just helps them because we need to exercise. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But being part of a team, being part of a team is is a big thing. Yeah, she tried Brazilian jujitsu. Whoa. And that was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00

She tried it.

SPEAKER_02

She tried it for about two years. Whoa. She got pretty good too. Um, and her confidence went up.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Um, because she was, you know, sparring with boys, which she was not comfortable at first, but then she was winning. So just you know, just seeing her get up after um sparring and actually having that boy tap out, like the confidence that she had in herself after that, it was pretty cool. Pretty cool to see.

SPEAKER_00

It is interesting how the martial arts teaches us to people think they they take martial arts and they can beat people up, but it actually teaches us to fight less.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's exactly right. You only use it if you need to.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely worst case, yeah, necessity. Yeah, you have it there, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly right.

SPEAKER_00

It does give confidence. I did it for a while.

SPEAKER_02

Did you?

SPEAKER_00

And I cracked a rib.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no. And never went back.

SPEAKER_00

If it affects my golf or my tennis, Andrea. That's right. That's I can't. Yeah, I can't. That's right. But it was cool though. It was yeah, you're rolling around a lot. It's it's uh you went she did competitions?

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

What would you like to watch as a parent?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it well, it's it's pretty cool to be able to watch as a as a parent going back, and you're like, I I have never done that before. So she's trying something that I have no idea how it works, but just seeing seeing her excel in that, it was so cool. It is pretty cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I'm a bit older than you, Andrea. I started my MSP back in the 90s, way before you and um was working way too hard. I wasn't exercising, as I just explained. I had my you know, I had my daughter at that time in front of the doctor, yeah, and I I'd gained three, I was at 340 pounds, so I'd gained all this terrible amount of weight. Yeah. And she says to me, if you don't lose this weight, you're not gonna see your daughter graduate. Scared the life out of me. Oh, I bet punching the steering wheels. I'm driving home, I'm upset. You know, I can abuse myself all I want. I have, you know, somehow I'm responsible for bringing this beautiful girl into the world. Spent the next six, seven months, lost about 120 pounds.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, kept it off, yeah. So it's 340, yeah, not 200. So uh, and you can't look at these things as finishing lines, right? These are lifelong changes.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So when I tell people this, they always say, What's your secret? What did you do? And I just say discipline, right? Routine, focus, willpower. How does discipline play a role in your life, Andrew?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yes. Well, bringing it back to like working out and the the whole like idea of me trying to be creative in my house, right? We have like the the cafe. I also turned my garage into a gym. Into a gym. Like it's funny because it's a very girly gym, too. There's a lot of pink equipment, and I hung pink curtains around the entire garage to hide like the shelving behind it. Because I still got like my tools and everything else in there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, put green carpet on the floor, but that helps me just like again, it's the environment that I'm in, being able to go out to the garage. It's super close, which makes it easier too. But working out, yeah, it's it's it is about that that discipline. Um, but I have to, for me, I have to have like that sense of peace ahead of the discipline. And interesting. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You have to have peace before the discipline.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, or else my mind gets very chaotic and I it wants to create a sense of peace first. Yeah, I was that way as a child, too, thinking back. Like it was hard for me to do my homework unless my room was clean first.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Perhaps you had to uh instill discipline to get the peace to get to that's actually a good point. That's right. Uh as a child, was it exemplified in the household? I mean, you became a teacher. I mean, that requires a certain amount of discipline, certainly.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Um my dad was a teacher. Yeah. And the discipline was definitely um through sports growing up, right? Like um, I was a pitcher, so if you're gonna be a pitcher, there's a lot of discipline that goes into that. My dad would, he was my catcher, and you know, he had built this back stop that was, you know, had the little strike zone in there. He even got a batting cage and put it in our backyard. And we had team practices there. So speaking of discipline, like I was always playing softball and practicing and pitching and trying to get better and learning how to throw different pitches. Um, but yeah, discipline comes into play for sure when you're playing a team sport. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

How's your shoulder?

SPEAKER_02

It's fine. Yeah. Well, it's funny because when I was in high school, I had learned to throw a screwball. That it was it was a it was a good pitch. So it wouldn't hit it. It would you kind of like curve your hand like this, and it starts out here. So they think it's gonna be outside the strike zone, and then it comes in. Yeah. And it would drop in away.

SPEAKER_00

So you're right-handed. So this would be to a right-handed. Wow.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah. But when you throw that pitch in fast pitch, my elbow kept hitting my rib over and over and over to a point where I think I could have maybe like bruised a rib. I don't think it was broken, but it it was bruised, and I had to stop for a little bit. Went back into pitching when I went into college, but high school, senior year, of course, is when this had to happen. But yeah, luckily we had another junior left-handed pitcher who was amazing. And I was like, let's let her pitch, and um, I'm gonna just play first base and I'm gonna let this wrestle.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Very flexible. Is there a question that you wish more people would ask you?

SPEAKER_02

A question that I wish more people would ask me. That is a good question. Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Here's the good news. There's no wrong answer.

SPEAKER_02

There is no wrong answer.

SPEAKER_00

One of the ones I remember is uh somebody said they went from well done to medium uh hamburgers.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I uh I I've done that too, actually. Yeah, because I grew up always getting well done. Wow and putting A1 on stake.

SPEAKER_00

From parents? Who would do such a thing?

SPEAKER_02

My parents in Ohio, yes. Yeah, yeah. And so now that I live in Charleston, like everyone looks at you. The waiters and waitresses are like, who, no, absolutely not. So I I have also done that, gone to gone to medium well, small baby steps, but there's there's no way I can get to rare.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, rare is not that blood on the bottom. I assume you were in Charleston your whole life. I get more of a kind of southern vibe. Were you from Ohio originally?

SPEAKER_02

Cincinnati. Yeah, yeah. Cincinnati. I ended up uh leaving Cincinnati right after I graduated college. I wanted to be close to the beach.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

And I had a friend who lived up, she went to high school with me and played softball with me. And her family would always vacation in Hilton Head, South Carolina.

SPEAKER_00

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_02

And they would come through Charleston. And so her and I, my cousin, all were like, let's go find a beachy town. And Charleston kept coming up. So we were like, all right, this is where we're gonna go. And I ended up driving to Charleston in my Mazda uh five speed, which I forgot. Yeah, I actually used to drive a five-speed. That's kind of yeah, I would love to do that again.

SPEAKER_00

Me too. Um can't find them anymore.

SPEAKER_02

You can't, which is crazy. Yeah, that was that was very fun. But yeah, I ended up driving to Charleston. Again, I graduated with my early childhood education degree. So I had my little teacher portfolio. I walked into a couple of elementary schools and ended up getting uh the second grade position after that. Wow. And then my friend didn't end up coming, so I moved to Charleston all by myself.

SPEAKER_00

Wow.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, which was the best thing I've ever done. Really? Yes, just taking the risk, doing it, and having to meet new people in a new town. Starting over, yeah. Starting over. It was it was not as hard in Charleston as it could be maybe in other places because Southern hospitality very accommodating, yeah. But I've been there 18 years now.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah. Is there something in the last month or so you changed your mind on?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, um, I would say, does it have to be related to a project?

SPEAKER_00

There's no wrong answers.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I um I never thought that I would ever fall in love again. Yeah. And I recently did.

SPEAKER_00

That's so nice. Yeah. You could see it in you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I'm really happy right now. Like if you can't tell, but it sounds like you you can you can tell. But I finally met somebody who is everything that I've actually ever wanted in a person. Yeah. Which yeah, but I never thought I would ever be in a relationship again. And um and now I'm finally at a point where my heart is open again. Oh, isn't that nice?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you go on vacations or any will you use project management to to schedule all that?

SPEAKER_02

I should. I should, yes. I I have not to be clear, but I I should, yes. Vacation. I've got two vacations that are coming up. Disney World with my daughter and my mom and dad. That's coming up, beginning of June. And then I am going on a cruise with all of my friends and their kids and my daughter um the end of June for my friend's 40th birthday. Yeah. So a seven-day cruise I've never done seven days before.

SPEAKER_00

You will love it.

SPEAKER_02

This will be, yeah, this will be fun. I love it.

SPEAKER_00

You will love it. Andrea, thank you so much for your time. Anyone watching or listening, how can they get in touch with you?

SPEAKER_02

Um, you can find me on LinkedIn. Yes. Yes. Very active on LinkedIn. I'm very active on LinkedIn. Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_00

I'll make sure to post it there. Thanks so much for your time.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you so much, Joe.

SPEAKER_00

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